The PCR result will have told you you are free to go about life, but Ive been in similar shoes to you (although my line was not so vague) and I knew I had prolonged contact with a positive case, so I isolated anyway. I have anti-ccp and RF positive RA. If so, I wonder if we could flag this together to our Rheumatology depts. I do lateral flows twice a week for past three months for my work. What does a faint line on my lateral flow test mean? The Print+ membership where Singletrack magazine drops through your door, plus full digital access, is normally 45, now only 22.50 with the code. Hard to say if it's all connected but (thankfully) it's my ownly significant health issue, so I thought it was a sensible place to start. I think there are more of us than we realise but it's still incredibly difficult to trust these tests and to know what to do about it. You agree to The lft are comparatively inaccurate and significantly less sensitive to actual infection than a PCR (especially in the early stages). Some scientists said the school programme could do "more harm than good" and leaked emails claimed it could all be scaled back. This can be due to non-specific binding and will vary from test to test. View our online Press Pack. Weve now had three types at home, some require reading in a 15-30 window, some not before 30 minutes the others Ive not had before and havent opened yet but, as above, regardless, if theres a line book a pcr and isolate until you get the result of that. The test is the latest one that you read between 15-30mins. Request an accessible format.. food or drink, or some other weak contaminant), or there are just very. Results for a lateral flow test should generally be checked within 30 minutes for an accurate result. With getting negatives on the NHS labelled brand though, and reading your post I'm not as concerned now. But false positives are not the only possible drawback with mass testing on this scale. Prof Petersen says that rapid lateral flow tests are far better at spotting the cases most likely to pass Covid on to someone else. Reddit and its partners use cookies and similar technologies to provide you with a better experience. Thanks for your message. Dr Sally Shaw who oversees a Covid-19 testing site told 3AW radio a faint second line . Government guidance states: "Result lines may appear smudged or faint, but they are still valid results . For more information, please see our Oh dear, well that has pretty much happened! The Sun is also urging readers to sign up to the Jabs Army campaign to make the rollout as smooth and fast as possible. News Group Newspapers Limited in England No. After getting nowhere, my Rheumatology nurse suggested I try swabbing just my throat for a lateral flow test and just my nose for another. Did a lateral flow test in the morning of the 6th. First, have you had covid in the past? Once in June and again last week. But if you can see anything with ordinary lighting it is positive. I spoke with NRAS, who suggested I reach out on here to see if anyone else has an experience similar. Since March, 183,939 pupils in England have tested positive on a lateral flow test at home and then had a sample sent off to a laboratory for a follow-up PCR test. Experts say contamination and low viral loads may cause faint line. So interesting that other people have experienced this too. Sounds like you were positive you shouldnt have got on a plane! I also did another lateral flow test yesterday just out of interest an again it was positive so somethings going on. The test instructions state that any line, however faint, is a +ve. However, the PCR tests have consistently come back negative. He said: "If the faint line appears after the window, the most likely cause is either that there has been some contamination (e.g. Both v similar LFD test faint positive in v early stages, confirmed PCR positive, LFD much stronger positive after 1-2 more days then remained positive for another week or so before then testing negative again. !! You should also get a PCR test if you have any of the symptoms of Covid-19: While these are the official symptoms according to the NHS, newer variants have reporteddifferent symptomswhich are more akin to a cold. Thirdly, some people are also failing to test properly with newer kits. Its not the first time that this has come up with other experts saying that the meaning of a faint positive line on your Covid-19 test depends on timing. Where that line is faint, the test is still considered to have given a positive . It should be phased out sooner rather than later," says Prof Irene Petersen at UCL. Followed by either a nose and throat LFT or a PCR which came back positive. The picture above is my positive LFT from this morning, and I have confirmed COVID. "We have drugs which can reduce the severity of influenza, for example, but they need to be taken very soon after infection," says Prof Alex Edwards. Therefore , we had to missed the wedding with a devastating impact on my wife , as she was standing for the Brides mother . ! Thanks, Melissa. Thanks, Claire x. Hi Claire, I am so sorry you're going through this too but so relieved to have found someone in the same position! It's such a relief being able to test at home isn't it? Lateral flow tests have pretty much 100% specificity. Not much help but Ive not had any false positive LFT and I do them twice a week. 'If the faintly positive line appears after the time window, the most likely cause is either that there has been some contamination (e.g. Last week I took another lateral flow test as was feeling a bit under the weather again. Cannot be used in conjunction with other offers, or when switching memberships), Contact UsPrivacyForum RulesClassifieds RulesLink RemovalNewsletter SettingsAdvertising, Viewing 40 posts - 1 through 40 (of 45 total). Ill have to try to track some down any idea what to look for? Started feeling like I had a cold this weekend, did a LFT which was negative, did another this morning and a very faint line appeared, but took 40mins plus until I was convinced something was there. The BBC is not responsible for the content of external sites. A swab is taken from the back of the nose or throat, mixed with an extraction fluid, and a drop of this mixture is. "The best advice is if you have symptoms is to simply stay at home until you are better, and that way you will avoid spreading Covid, flu and a host of other viral infections. The official instructions that accompany the LFTs states that 'two lines, one next to the C and one next to the T, even faint lines, shows the test is positive'. Hi Melissa,My husband has had positive lateral flows since Wednesday (so for 5 days now) - the line is very heavy on each. Hi Melissa, I'm diagnosed with undifferentiated connective tissue disease (only diagnosed this year, rheumatologist said it could change to an RA or lupus diagnosis). Hi there. Yes I am and strongly anti-CCP positive. Boxes of seven tests could be delivered free, or picked up from a pharmacy. It was an absolute nightmare and stressful too. We had similar happen here then got a proper positive from another LFT the next day so thats my guess, If it was a drug test in the Peleton it would mean lots of scrutiny on the B sample. I had both vaccinations this summer, AstraZeneca with a booster due early next year. As a family we are having to isolate even though I'm getting negative PCRs. I am glad to hear you don't have Covid this time, although is sounds like you are having similar lateral flow issues to me. I too have the worry that false positives will cause me difficulties in the future. The innova test showed a faint second line but the government issue lateral flow tests were consistently negative and three pcrs were negative too. I'm 3 years into a rheumatoid arthritis diagnosis but I hospital about stopping my meds. It would make much more sense if we all had the same issue with the same brand of tests, but clearly this isn't the case. Posting a photo of a vaguely positive lateral flow to Instagram, London-based A&E doctor Nathan explained what it could mean. He said: Essentially, if *any* line appears before the end of the interpretation window (check leaflet, usually this is 30 minutes), then this is a *positive* test and you must isolate. My experience was a very faint line on lft after 20 minutes on the day I spiked a temp (taken after a PCR, whilst waiting for results). PCR test a day later was negative. 15/03/2021 08:24, Mine usually goes negative within 3 min and stays negative even hours later. It's significantly more likely that lateral flow tests will give out a false negative result, however. When twice-weekly rapid testing was rolled out in secondary schools in the spring of 2021, there were worries that large numbers of pupils would be incorrectly told they had the virus - a so-called "false positive" - and sent home. ), New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast. Experiments showed the main brands used in the UK did successfully detect all 15 of the samples infected with the new variant. Who can still get free lateral flow tests from this Friday. Hi Melissa,Two thoughts occur. Picture: Alamy If a faint line appears after 30 minutes, he adds, it may not indicate a positive result - but people. Of course, I have then routinely booked a PCR for either the same, or next day and isolated before the test and until the result. Consistent false positive lateral flow tests for Covid. About Press Copyright Contact us Creators Advertise Developers Terms Privacy Policy & Safety How YouTube works Test new features NFL Sunday Ticket Press Copyright . Well, they work for me! Cookie Notice Rich Quelch, of pharmaceutical experts Origin, explained: 'After completing a lateral flow test, your result will appear within 30 minutes. The other possibility I thought of is CSF, as I have high intercranial pressure from excess cerebral spinal fluid, so could have a CSF leak in my nose. Secondly, he says, some people may not be reading the instructions properly. That does seem very sensitive if that's the case though. You no longer have to get a follow-up PCR test if you test positive on a lateral flow with no symptoms. Although NHS guidance says you do not need to self isolate if your lateral flow test is negative, if you have a faint positive line, Dr Peacock advised to be extra precautious. I'll be interested to see if my Rheumy Nurse knows any more about the Antibody issue when she gets back to me. Others think that as the Omicron wave passes, it is time to wind down the mass testing programme completely. Also dont waste time doing another lft, a second is no more accurate than the first so it cant be used to contradict the previous, you need a pcr for that. I am travelling to Greece to see my Mum and Dad on Sunday and the Greek Embassy said that it was an acceptable letter, and so I would highly recommend you try and get one if you can. SUPER faint positive line on lateral flow test. ", PCR tests halted for Covid cases without symptoms, Street fighting in Bakhmut but Russia not in control, Russian minister laughed at for Ukraine war claims. Dr Hudson-Peacock has since been praised as one of the few clear voices in all of this confusion for his multiple Instagram posts about lateral flow tests and coronavirus regulations. Comparisons to a . Rezzy Ghadjar "I take two tests a week because I see so many people as part of my job," she says. Update number 2!Virology came back to say that this is a medical phenomenon that they are aware of but as yet, do not know why this is happening to certain people. So do it before you eat/drink anything. My SO is on his 5th day of testing. I have had the exact same thing twice now. Ive since done 2 more of the NHS nose and throat LFTs both of which have been negative. On social media over Christmas it wasn't hard to find posts from people who said they were clear on multiple rapid tests taken at home - even with Covid symptoms - only to test positive on a more sensitive PCR test processed in a laboratory. He said an extra 425 million tests are due to be made available this month with further shipments expected after that. Wife and son both had it recently, wife double vacced, son 11 yo. On symptoms alone then you should isolate. I didnt really expect to be here, because when I did my Fit to Fly Flowflex LFT, I got a faint red line after the 15 minutes. Even if the line next to the T is extremely faint, that still means your test is positive. Then in April, the programme was extended to the general public. It's the closest I have got to some kind of acknowledgement so far! I'm in exactly the same position Melissa. Lateral flow antigen testing detects the presence of the COVID-19 viral antigen from a swab sample. The home test kits generally provide a fast and reliable result in 30 minutes and unlike PCR tests do not need to. I managed to get a letter from my Dr to say lateral flow tests should not be used in my first line of testing, but it doesn't really solve the ongoing issue around travel for me (e.g. I've had two LFTs per week since early March and not a single false positive. I took LFT tests over consecutive days, including the day I did a PCR test, all LFTs were negative, PCR positive. It affects around 1% of the population, of which a significant group will have been shielding. The test is administered by handheld devices producing results in 30 minutes and can be self-administered. However, the UK Health and Security Agency (UKHSA) said that its own analysis had not found this to be true. Hi. Any other lines appearing may not be Covid. A doctor has shared his concerns about the faint lines on lateral flow tests and what they could indicate. food or drink, or some other weak contaminant), or there are just very low levels of the virus. However, it is undeniably there at that point which is why I also have to take a follow up PCR. Also my RA nurse said she'd mention it to my consultant. Hi Melissa. Have you got a source for that? A line next to the 'C'. My GP has written a letter to say I should be exempt from lateral flows as a first line of testing and should be offered a PCR instead. I saw in the news what was happening and was wondering the same. For the particular kits you have or the last lot [you read the instructions for]? Asymptomatic. Hi Soph, I am so sorry to hear you are having this problem, but glad you have found me on here! At least within a group of relatives and friends. However, if the positive line is very faint and appears after a certain amount of time, it could actually mean you are not infected, a doctor has said. We will use the information you have shared for carefully considered and specific purposes, where we It would be great to see a positive outcome like that from this very negative pandemic. Recently he shared an image of a lateral flow test with an extremely faint line next to the 'T'. After 20mins a very thin (positive) second line appeared. "All tests create harms. Have you logged the issue anywhere? About two or three weeks later she got a clear positive result and correspondingly positive PCR result I have no idea if the two were linked. Hope you work out what is causing yours. I did this because I got a negative PCR test this morning, so it was a sensible time to try this knowing I don't have Covid. I do have some developments since posting this. Maybe that interferes with it, similar to what the kids found out with fruit juice! Good on you for doing the right thing and acting on it. Was going to suggest the same. If it is the latter, and obviously assuming you are asymptomatic at this point, then you are very unlikely to be a transmission risk anyway and so it is of little significance.. There has been a surge in demand for lateral flow tests in the lead up to New Year's Eve celebrations, as people look to check whether they have come down with the virus. If you wish to object to the use of your data in this way, please Have had first AZ jab but unable to have 2nd due to very severe reaction. VideoRussian minister laughed at for Ukraine war claims, The children left behind in Cuba's mass exodus, Xi Jinping's power grab - and why it matters, Snow, Fire and Lights: Photos of the Week. While most kits have a standard time of half an hour, Dr Hudson-Peacock noted it is important to double-check the instructions and explained that results must be checked within that specific time period otherwise they can be inaccurate. It would be hugely inconvenient not as inconvenient as the person who directly from you, or indirectly for someone you infect ends up in ITU. There is a small well at the bottom of the device with the letter "S" next to it. I understand false negatives are common but false positives are rare. Read about our approach to external linking. If there is no line, that means you have. All negative except this week. I agree, there is a lack of honesty around the accuracy of these tests and I don't know if you saw my pictures above but if I only do a throat swab then I can deliver a negative result but the moment I do a nose swab it comes back positive. Lateral flow tests are being used in a bid to prevent COVID-19 outbreaks due to asymptomatic cases. You can find out more about our legitimate interest activity in our Privacy Policy. Taking to Instagram, Dr Hudson-Peacock detailed what it means if a faint line shows up next to the T within or outside of the interpretation window. My 10 year old was sent home from school as they had lots of cases, LF in the evening had a very feint line. However, the PCR tests have consistently come back negative. He reassured his followers and said that if this line appears after the 30 minute window, then it does not count as a positive test. Around 4.9 million people in the UK are believed to have had Covid-19 in the week ending. no matter how long I leave a -ve one there has never been a faint line. My GP has written a letter for me to carry when travelling, so I feel more comfortable getting on a plane to go and see my Mum and Dad, knowing I have something to show if I am spot checked at the border. Excludes Gift Memberships, Discount applies to first year. You do not need to isolate and you do not need to book a PCR. I very much hope the end is in sight and you'll be able to enjoy a sense of freedom soon. "I saw my best friend over Christmas and her son had tested positive, so I thought I should just check.". You agree to theprocessing, A man has warned to be aware of faint positives on Covid-19 home testing kits. According to the government's . Dr Hudson-Peacock warns that any line in the 'T' section that shows up in the first 30 minutes, no matter how faint, indicates a positive result. However, recently we ordered a new batch These are a brand called FlowFlex, which is clearly shown on the outside of the pack. It's been mixed up week here at STW Towers, mostly thanks to everyone suddenly realising they haven't used up their annual leave so they'd better take some time off. It seems so inconsistent as well. My nephew had a false positive too he has autism and tested positive at school the only one apparently. But the results of these tests are not so black and white. My RA symptoms have been far worse since then. If you are positive you can expect to see two lines on the test, while a negative result will see just one line appearing within half an hour. A doctor has shared his concerns about the faint lines on lateral flow tests and what they could indicate. Mine was totally stumped but at least referred the issue to virology at Guys. The cold was what was worrying me as I really didn't want to pass Covid19 on if the PCR was wrong. I took two lateral flow tests 12 hours apart from different batches and both were positive. I've been trying to find any information on super faint lines that result on lateral flow tests. They told me about this post. Some reports have said that a faint line on the back end of the infection COULD mean they don't even have it anymore (or maybe that they weren't contagious? If neither of those apply, then I'm out of ideas. And a digital membership where you can read all the digital magazines is normally 25, and now 12.50 with the code. food or drink, or some other very weak contaminant that. The thought of having to isolate because of a false positive lateral flow test and not see my parents (as you can imagine it has been a long time since I have been able to see them) really got to me. Whether the faint line on your lateral flow test means you have tested positive for Covid-19 or not is all down to timing. We pay for videos too. O holy fright: even a faint second line on a lateral flow test means you are positive Credit: iStockphoto For the past few months, our lives have been ruled by a swab up the nose. As Ive been shielding for best part of two years Ive only had to take one test just to prove to doc that the chest infection I had was just that and not covid as Im CEV so I cant give you my personal experience. I have had the exact same but I am the opposite and only get false positives with the Flowflex brand just in the nose, the other non-branded (nose and throat) ones are negative for me. 0. steph m (40) 06/12/2014 at 11:31 am. Just checking youre not eating or drinking beforehand? I also did a xiamen one which was positive. Nathan gave his views that: If the faintly positive line appears after the time window, the most likely cause is either that there has been some contamination (e.g. He urged people to ensure they are doing the correct swab for the test they are taking. Not exactly. Best to get a PCR. I don't have RA, but was diagnosed with fibromyalgia in 1997 as I suffer with chronic pain. Like I said, anecdotal evidence, 4 people in the family and two close friends have taken nose only FLT tests which indicated negative results. To comment on this thread you need to create a Mumsnet account. 07/08/2021 20:56. Negative PCR back this morning, just did another LFT and there is the very slightest hint of a line at 30mins (when looking closely using phone light). A doctor has explained why seeing a faint second 'positive' line on a lateral flow test doesn't always mean you have the virus. food or drink, or some other very weak contaminant that is causing a false positive), or there are just incredibly low levels of the virus. This article originally . The 2 very faint positives I got on sainsburys test have disappeared. Out of interest, have you tried doing one swab from your nose and a separate from your throat? As you can see, negative for throat and positive for nose. I recently took 3 lateral flow tests. My subsequent PCR test was negative. Well, Ive just done another one. Click here to upload yours. Download 'Turn Me On' on iTunes, 11 January 2022, 10:19 | Updated: 11 January 2022, 10:40. Have been taking LFTs 2-3 times a week since February and never seen a line, and I tend to inspect them a bit neurotically. Good luck and let me know how you get on. The following day I received a negative result for the PCR but tested positive twice more on Lateral flows. Ive already had to postpone steroid injections in my knees because of it. In some circumstances lateral flow tests can. Get a pcr done asap. Some scientists are concerned that the public are often far too trusting if their lateral flow test comes back negative. They tested the five lateral flow devices used in the UK against Omicron and the older strain of coronavirus. Even though most of us have now taken a lateral flow test at some point, it's important to always read the instructions. Lateral flow test using a throat only swab is showing negative and a nose only, positive. However, these tests have all had false positives (from different batches and my husband uses them with no issues) since my second vaccine and I work from home. Because all the reports I have seen suggest they work better. While all rapid antigen tests currently on the market for COVID are lateral flow tests, not all lateral . What does a faint line mean on a lateral flow test? Hi there, thank you so much for coming back to me. My GP wrote to the immunology department at St Thomas's with my dilemma and I will report back any findings. Think I read about cross reactivity with other coronaviruses potentially giving false positives on LFT. If it carries on in a week or so I'll definitely call the GP. She had a full list of customers coming in for treatments after New Year and had to quickly rebook all of them. I was speaking to someone on a RA Facebook.page that had the same issue. Have you come across those ones yet? You do not need to isolate and you do not need to book a PCR.. Second, you say the test line appears faintly 'during the 30 min window'. But the weekly rate of those positive lateral flow tests later confirmed by PCR has never fallen below 50% and has been above 84% since the start of the school year in September. I've been trying to find any information on super faint lines that result on lateral flow tests. if I went on a city break, I have to factor in the time to get a PCR before coming back and not all can guarantee a 24 hr turnaround). US man dies from brain-eating amoeba after rinsing his nose. The only day the line was dark was 12/26. Ultimate caution would suggest I stay at home, but then ultimate caution would have us still in lockdown. Lft kinda irrelevant. They are the tests we got in the unbranded blue and white boxes. Also no symptoms. However, if the "positive" line is very faint and appears after a certain. 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